Have Your Say
New Faith throws out the Ten Commandments
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Dave
17th September, 2008
10:04pmNow, there is a rarity!
I search a church website and it took me over 25 minutes to find even one mention of the words "Christ", "Jesus" and "God".
I thought I may find it in "St Michaels"
I thought I may find it in "Baptisms"
I thought I may find it in "Dr Macnab"
...but no. This is a sad day for Christianity indeed. -
Brian Boid
17th September, 2008
9:55pmClearly, Macnab is someone that does not know the saving grace of Jesus. How he got to the position of cleric in the Baptist Church is beyond me.
I would call on all Christians amongst this blog to pray for him; pray also for those who hear his words - that they would reject them. -
Dennis
17th September, 2008
9:50pmI must disagree with your comments John Abbate 16th September, 2008 5:18pm...
Neither I, nor my Christian family are "judgemental, stone-throwing Christians, full of hate."
I do not agree with Macnab and am completely against what he is preaching, however, my feelings for this man are of pity. Read Revelation 22 - it may give you an insight into the retribution God has in store for people who like Macnab add and detract from the Word of God.
You may wish to read the gospels where Jesus - God's son - says: "Let he who is without sin throw the first stone". Not one of us is without sin, and it is not our place to judge. We forfeit the right to judge others when we take on God's mercy and grace - for has He not paid the supreme sacrifice for the sin of all mankind?
The principle stated above does not however prevent Christians from warning others of the deceit and lies that present themselves to mankind. Warning others at all costs is what we are trying to do in regards to Macnab.
I do hope that one day Macnab turns from his deceitful ways. In the mean time I will be warning, screaming, proclaiming and shouting that what this man is saying is not of God; and I pray - as I pray for all who don't know the saving grace of Jesus - that God has mercy on his soul when he stands before the Lord in judgement should that day come. -
George Evans
17th September, 2008
9:28pmWell, Satan certainly is alive and active. In the last days there will be a falling away, and McNab is certainly helping in that area!
Anyone who agrees with him should try the RSL, CWA, or some other venue instead of wasting their time at a "Church" meeting. -
Paul
17th September, 2008
5:16pmConsider this:
1. God is a relational God…
- Even though we all sin (including Moses), God still desires to relate to us. If He never desired a relationship with us, why then would He have created us in the first place? And why would God have sent His own precious son to die a tormenting death, for the purpose of attaining a relationship which God considers worthless?
2. God is a forgiving God…
- Even though we all sin (including Moses), God sent his one and only son to pay the penalty for our sins, and in doing so enables us into His presence if only we ask for forgiveness.
3. God is a just God…
- Even though we all disobey God’s law (including Moses), God knew that the law was an unattainable way into His presence. The law is a reflection of the perfection of God and highlights the frailty of mankind in living up to God’s perfection. God sent His son to die for the sins of all mankind so that if only we accept Jesus’ forgiveness, we would be made righteous is His sight.
How unjust would it be of a relational God to not offer forgiveness to humanity, given that the debt of mankind's sin has already been paid in advance with His own son’s life? -
Graeme
17th September, 2008
3:50pmMacNab seems to be trying to replace the interventionist God with a kind of vague immanentism which should be marketable in today's culture up to a point. Spong rather than the current group of Atheists springs to mind.
Granted that all the religions have some antecedents in superstitious and unenlightened beliefs and behaviour, one does not need to accept that 10 Commandments therefore need to be swept away by the "new faith" (faith in what precisely?) Written up approximately in the 7th C BCE, the 10 Commandments were obviously designed to keep a tribe together in peace. For us today in the Judeo-Christian tradition, they point to deep and universal moral and ethical structures within the conscience of each individual quite apart from underpinning the legal system... much as we would like to break at least two of them on a regular basis. Is MacNab seriously arguing that the 10 commandments be ditched? How many? In toto?
Calling Jesus a peasant seems a strange way for a Uniting church cleric to gather in the lost and the curious. Presumably a lot of thought has gone into this re-invention and the air brushing of Jesus into the dustbin - much tried in the past but the subject matter and the solidity of the Gospel accounts indicate a degree of resilience.
Looks like Macnab won't be relying on the clear and definite eyewitness accounts of the risen Jesus upon which the Christian Churches are based. In spite of differing styles, variations in the accounts, possible interpolations and the timelapse for the writing of the 4 Gospels, they are absolutely clear sighted that their testimony is traustworthy. It is not deluded not mythologised; they are not the ramblings of simple minded peasants. 500 disciples are recorded as having seen the risen Jesus according to St Paul, formerly a ferocious foe of the incipient Christians. No resurrection Dr Macnab, no Uniting Church Dr Macnab, no cleric Macnab, Dr Macnab - call it something else.
Macnab is using George Pell's previous spin doctor??????? -
tom rowston
17th September, 2008
2:05pmDr MacNab,
I can't believe you referred to Jesus as a mere "jewish peasant". Jesus had an affinity with God which we will never fully understand or comprehend. Jesus was no ordinary person but one who had incredible insight, wisdom and compassion. He overturned the old jewish laws and introduced the new law. Why do you hark back to the ten commandments (the old law) which was replaced 2000 years ago ? The ten commandments are not negative - they were standards/rules to live by at that time. And the money you intend to spend on advertising this new faith - that is unbelievable. My wife & I have attended your services for many years and never in that time have to referred to Jesus as a "jewish peasant " Then you say we have something to learn from Jesus ?
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steve
17th September, 2008
12:00amWhat? A new faith for a new century? Moses a genocide murderer? Jesus simply a peasant? The 10 commandments thrown out? Dr McNab, you're pastoring a Christian church and yet you're perverting the gospel and making a mockery of the Word of God - and now you want to encourage the advertising of this newfound religion! Friend, I'm ready and willing to meet with you and debate you, in private or public, on what exactly the truth is, true biblical christianity - to show you your errors and bring you back from this path of deception and lies!
Thank you -
Arnold James (ret Rev)
16th September, 2008
10:47pm16/09/08.
I have read the Age, and found your whole outlook very refreshing. I have been tusseling with myself along similar lines for years. I have been finding much of the UCin A wanting in so many areas. I read the two replies from Synod and felt that they were not on the same wavelengths. -
Jack
16th September, 2008
7:47pmA religion that does not require a suspension of disbelief, is inclusive and smacks of common sense; where is the fun it that? I wish Dr. M. the best of luck. - Showing comments 81-90 of 106
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